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Do you know how some things look great at 300 pixels but at 100, not so much?

kwritten and lynnenne's deconstruction of "Bad to the Bone" re: otherworldlyric challenge 170 inspired me to give it another try (their comments/poetry here and here.)

I tried. Oh I did try. But this simply doesn't "translate" in icon size. (This is my favorite version let's forget about the rejects, shall we?):



And that was the best of the lot. So my newest Fox and the Vineyard excuse is: There are some things that just can't be said in an icon and needs a bigger canvas.
It happens. Sometimes it is the size that counts and not just how you use it.


Gabrielle


P.S. Love your art!
You are much too kind, sweetie!

Sometimes it is the size that counts and not just how you use it.

I threw away so many icons when I was in moulin rouge fandom because I downsized it and the effects suddenly didn't work. It never occured to me at the time to let them stay large sized.

Now I'm wondering why there aren't more forums for fanart that bring artists and audiences together the way the icon challenges do *ponders*
Maybe you should start a banner challenge community.

I was pondering that idea last night as a matter of fact, thank you! (It may be less to try to bite off than a generalized "appreciation of buffyverse women comm"? ) *ponders*
I read the lyrics and I laughed for 5 minutes. I think that they call too much parody of male characters but I don't have the skills to actually do that. (Maybe it would be funny in a video)

Your banner is so sad and beautiful. Blood Ties breaks hearts.
I read the lyrics and I laughed for 5 minutes. I think that they call too much parody of male characters but I don't have the skills to actually do that.

I honestly don't know if the song was originally intended to be a parody of jacked-up masculinity or it it's "straight up" serious. (Like the rockers in the '80's who said "Disco's dead, rock is rolling!" as a way of dissing the perceived "queer" qualities and origins of disco/glam etc.)

Did you see the actual entries and vote btw? There were some really wonderful ones that definitely took "liberties" with the lyrics to great effect. http://otherworldlyric.livejournal.com/231592.html

And thank you for the compliments sweetie! Blood Ties has a lot of depth to it but it gets overlooked, I think. Not just Dawn, Buffy and Joyce, but Willow and Tara, Glory - it's a quintessential S5 episode: female-centric, about family, about identity, reality, power, etc
I love what you did here, and I don't think icons are good enough or powerful enough to get this stuff through.

Sizing is stupid.

The canvas is unworthy.
The canvas is unworthy.

That is a brilliant turn of phrase - I want to put that on a bumper sticker or even a t-shirt (and I don't wear slogans on t-shirts) so people will stop and say "Huh?"

Of course the canvas is neither good nor bad, it simply IS. Perhaps it's the artist who is not yet worthy of the canvas.

But thank you anyway for your compliments sweetie!
The muse swings you as it may and there aint no forcin'! Such an emotive 300 pixels! Thanks for posting it.
Thank you for the feedback Janice, you are too kind!

The muse swings you as it may and there aint no forcin'!

THIS IS TRUTH. When I got back into writing a little bit ten years ago (after a long hiatus) I realized the Muse was running the show, not me. I have to beg and offer soft words and chocolate cake and hope that She deigns to favor me now and again.

Also, I have to show up and practice every day (you're one of my role models on THAT subject - showing up and doing the work!)


Practice is definitely of the good in anything you want to succeed at. I'd add a rider (lol, pun intended) that a very accomplished German equestrian would say - Only perfect practice makes perfect. My practice of late has been quite a bit strained. My Buffy muse is on hiatus apparently and I've still got to get out a story or art for Nekidspike. Oh well, all excitement still in RL so I guess I will get back into a routine of some sort down the track. :D
Oh well, all excitement still in RL so I guess I will get back into a routine of some sort down the track.



RL does come first - but if you're overly busy or tired in your RL you feel the lack of "me" time (creative time); but then you have more trouble creating and getting into that mode to start - a vicious cycle indeed! (I see that with my sweetie and her art constantly esp in terms of physical pain.)

I hope the RL stuff isn't anything that dreadful or serious? Work stuff?
All so true. I've parted company with the family company and whilst there was hurt I'm so glad the old man kept pushing it because I needed to go and get back into 'my own' family business. I've let everything here slide and now I get to pick up the reins and get it back on track. So, yeah the creative stuff for fandom has to take a back seat for a little time. :D
Fandom will be waiting for you when you "return" my dear with bells and whistles on and isn't that a mental picture? (not that you've gone away - even just posting links and recs is a very smart way of maintaining a presence here.)

Oh, that is REALLY GOOD! Love the font. But yeah, the text is too small. :( Shame! Unfortunately I don't have a lot of experience in text icons.

I was just reminded -- in the RP scene, where I really got into icons at all, we'd generally use textless icons, since we used icons for facial expressions. LJ/DWRP is such an interesting thing, really. It's a text-based hobby, but also works with visuals; for example, we'd have one character reply to another's entry/comment with multiple comments, all with different icons to denote a progress of reactions. Icon keywords were also important, since you could see them by hovering over the icon.

Ahem. :) So yeah. Icons. More difficult than they seem.
in the RP scene, where I really got into icons at all

RP?

LJ/DWRP is such an interesting thing, really. It's a text-based hobby, but also works with visuals; for example, we'd have one character reply to another's entry/comment with multiple comments, all with different icons to denote a progress of reactions. Icon keywords were also important, since you could see them by hovering over the icon.

Sure, then add in the use of gifs, some with text and some without, and a very short comment can have several layers of meaning at once.

It's actually fun, or at least I probably spend a little too much time figuring out which of my icons is the "right" one at any given time. It's very different to the days when I was in Moulin Rouge fandom over ten years ago, and was happy with just one icon. I didn't think of icons as a way of communicating feelings (like a more sophisticated emoticon) but more as a "mask", a more glamourous representation of "self".

A lot of the icons I make are close-ups of faces, so figuring out the right combination of expression, font, text (words) and putting it together so the words don't detract from the image is really challenging. (I was esp happy with the Normal Again/Prophecy Girl set I made for OWL challenge 163: http://red-satin-doll.livejournal.com/34456.html)

And thank you for the kind feedback!

So yeah. Icons. More difficult than they seem.

There's a lot more than just "Cropping" and calling it a day.
I personally think it looks awesome, but I agree that it would be tough to translate that into a 100x100 icon.

Thanks for sharing your work!
I agree that it would be tough to translate that into a 100x100 icon.

Yep, unfortunately:



And that still came out better than my other attempts. *le sigh*
I love your art here and I don't feel it could emote as well as an icon because of the font being so small. Size is over rated for art sometimes. Great job turning such a silly song into something deeper!
I don't feel it could emote as well as an icon because of the font being so small.

Exactly (did you see the downsized version abovethread in my reply to snogged? http://red-satin-doll.livejournal.com/37857.html?thread=1076193#t1076193

And that is honestly the most legible version. I tried doing it with a slightly different crop and using the "splash" tool for black and white with some of the blood "painted" messily down her arm. A lot of fun and really nifty in 300 pixels but just a mess when I downsized.

I'm wondering now why I don't make more of these in the larger size. How many folks are actually going to snag any of my icons, really? (If I snagged everything I saw that I liked, I'd have 300+).

Great job turning such a silly song into something deeper!

Thanks hon! DId you like my "tip o' the nib" to Spike? kwritten's the inspiration for that probably more than she knows (until she reads this comment). Both in her celebration of their friendship and her idea to "take liberties." I wish now that I'd written "Through the blood....to the bone" instead of "to the blood" but ah well.)

BTW - you icon? Buffy in Dead Things OMG THAT SCENE...I have tried to make an icon from that scene, from that shot, over and over and have failed. I never got anything I liked with it as much as the icon you're using.
I did see it :) Sometimes the font just doesn't work with an icon and looks better in a bigger version, your art is a prime example. I am the same way when it comes to icons, I'd have so very many!

I didn't catch that! I do like!

Thanks! I made this in my latest batch of Buffy Summers icons, here is the link if you'd like to see the rest. To be honest, that icon is my favorite out of them all http://spikesredqueen.livejournal.com/167380.html

I have also recently posted some Willow icons if you want to see: http://spikesredqueen.livejournal.com/168441.html
Sometimes the font just doesn't work with an icon and looks better in a bigger version

PB's "Covered in Grace" font works fine and is one of my favorites - when I don't try to put TOO MANY words in the icon. See my Things Fall Apart icon (Buffy in The Body) This is me, this is me forgetting it's limitations

Thanks! I made this in my latest batch of Buffy Summers icons, here is the link if you'd like to see the rest. To be honest, that icon is my favorite out of them all http://spikesredqueen.livejournal.com/167380.html

I have also recently posted some Willow icons if you want to see: http://spikesredqueen.livejournal.com/168441.html


Would it surprise you to know that I looked at that last night and I like several individual Buffy icons and ADORED your write-up about what caps you used and how they related to the Tarot prompts, but preferred the Willow icons as a set or group overall in terms of working together as a visual whole, if that makes sense?
Are all your pics lost to photof***et? :-(

Yep. I've been busy working (and not paying attention to my journal) so I only noticed it because of the same thing on other journals and forums. No way I'm going to be able to recover/rebuild it all.)