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Hypocrisy Thy Name is RedSatinDoll : Y'All Voted My Icon 3rd Place at Otherworldlyrics icontest 165!

So while I was bitching and moaning about how hard it is for me to vote in icontests because of all the great work I just can't decide and don't you feeeeeel myyyyyy paiiiiiiinnnn...

this happened:


I mean - REALLY? Are you sure there wasn't a miscount? Because I am happy as all get out but also perplexed because there were so many WONDERFUL entries to chose from.

I'm just - REALLY?

Thank you to everyone who voted for my icon!  I'm honored (and astonished and happy and giggly and perplexed) because there's some fantastic entries here. (Who did #5? I NEED TO KNOW THIS!)

But all the credit has to go to my Beta-Muse wickedbish who pretty much held my hand (as always) when I threw 41 icons at him because I couldn't chose. He picked this one partly because he thought it captured Buffy's overprotectiveness of Dawn. It wasn't my personal favorite and I probably - scratch that, I definitely wouldn't have submitted it without his advice.  And I came damn near ignoring his advice and sending other icons except

1) I remembered my own experiences as a beta for writer friends when they seek my advice and then don't take it when it doesn't; not that they have to take my advice, but when that turns into a pattern? Frustration sets in: "Ok, so why are you asking my advice if you're not gonna take it?" It felt awful disrespectful of what he offers and for free. And,

2) The last time, I won third place with an icon I wouldn't have submitted except for his advice.

So, this icon maker has learned her lesson: I'm an awful judge of my own stuff. This is why I go to Ryan. So, I need to stfu and TRUST that he knows his shit.

CONGRATULATIONS to the other winners spikesredqueen & xclaire_delunex!  Really lovely, simple, powerful icons this round.

BTW - my other submissions were #6 & #10. I'll share the other ones I made but didn't submit tomorrow ETA:i as soon as I can get the darn post finished.  t was a fun challenge!

And don't ask me what I voted for btw because I honestly DO NOT remember, I was so torn in so many directions. I will admit that I voted for #5 - I am CRAZY IN LOVE with that icon, whoever made it. I also especially liked 7, and 12-14, so I could have voted for any of them.
Thanks sweetie!

ETA: OMG you did 5, 7 & 14? (I'm looking at your post right now btw - and I LOVE that you talk about the process of making the icons. Because you're making ART.) You are part of the reason why the voting tore me up and I couldn't decide. I KNOW I voted for 5 and I don't often go crazy in love with Willow icons but that one - GAH. YESYESYES.

I definitely voted for 5, 14 and 7 was my alternate. Not that that matters or anything.

Edited at 2014-03-18 12:51 pm (UTC)
Yay! Oh, I'm so happy! As always, it was a joy to peruse your work & talk about it. I've been rather contentedly brain-dead the past few days, so that was a fun, and much-needed, little sparky spark.

And yeah, I know my shit. Heh.
As always, it was a joy to peruse your work & talk about it.

Ryan that makes me SO happy - I'm teary-eyed right now. When I sent you the email I was thinking to myself that I was being a bother and intrusive and taking up your time and effort for free and...etc etc. I felt bossy and demanding for even asking you to look at them. You know, low self-esteem bullshit.

So reading this means a lot to me.

And yeah, I know my shit. Heh.

Did you see my new tag? *points upward* it's supposed to read "handmaiden" but oh well. I am a full convert to the Church of Wickedbish.
Yay! Congrats!!! I voted for your Buffy #6 icon!!! It was so hard to decide! I also love your other icons!

Edited at 2014-03-18 03:21 am (UTC)
Congratulations to you as well! 12 and 13 were two of my favorites and I kept going back and forth - I think I ended up voting for 12 because it told a complete story in a single image and I liked that. 5 minutes later I would have chosen 13 - what gorgeous font *iz jealous* and those slashmarks on her back, the tight crop, wow, what emotional/visual impact! What fandom is #13 for?

I voted for your Buffy #6 icon!!! It was so hard to decide! I also love your other icons!

I have so much stupid love for #6 you have NO idea - I actually made quite a few icons just of that scene with different crops and colors and I love every single one of them. My beta Ryan singled out that version of it so that's why I went with that one. (If I had my druthers I'd have submitted 15 icons to this round if I could have. God this round was such fun - by fun I mean tons of emotion and angst of course.)

Thanks, hon! I'm really honored (and floored) to be in such good company.
I'm an awful judge of my own stuff Me too! I never seem to like the the one everyone else does and I'm always surprised by that.

I remembered my own experiences as a beta for writer friends when they seek my advice and then don't take it when it doesn't; not that they have to take my advice, but when that turns into a pattern? I've had that happen. At that point, I say my goodbye. Why should we both be wasting our time? I usually find that writers who don't take any advise, usually just want a cheerleader not a beta. Someone who is going to tell them how wonderful their writing is and no critique.

Congrats on third place.
You're using the stained glass icon! *squees*

I never seem to like the the one everyone else does and I'm always surprised by that.

*nods*

I usually find that writers who don't take any advise, usually just want a cheerleader not a beta. Someone who is going to tell them how wonderful their writing is and no critique.

I wrote a short post on betas back in July that sparked an interesting discussion, and that was one of the points I made, because I've had that experience: http://red-satin-doll.livejournal.com/20858.html

I've even had to ask someone "What do you actually WANT from me?" Because if someone wants a cheerleader, I can be that. And in a way I'm glad that I have been there, because I might have discounted Ryan's advice outright. And the thing is, no artist is EVER obligated to listen to their beta, and I say that to my friends when I look at their writing; but yeah, after a while, you have to walk away. I can count on one hand the number of people who ask for my advice and are able to really listen to it, then we can discuss it and it turns into something richer, and that conversation is part of the process. It's really special when it does work.

Bottom line, betas (muses, special readers, feedback friends, etc) don't get the love they deserve.
This will have to be fast because I'm in the middle of something important, but CONGRATULATIONS! The icon is perfect, it sums up Buffy as the Protector, always throwing herself in front of her sister to save her from the world that wants to break her. It's beautiful, I love it.

And oh boy do I get your pain when it comes to voting - I want to vote for about six different things and can't bear to pick. I am indecisive and should be cured. Or whipped until I decide faster.
It sums up Buffy as the Protector

that's what Ryan said - of course he also caught the irony of it, that Buffy can be overprotective and sometimes that is NOT what Dawn needs. I think she overprotects to the degree that she herself was underprotected.

Wait until you see the other Dawn icons, I think you will like. :)

I am indecisive and should be cured. Or whipped until I decide faster.

I am TOTALLY against the application of pain and punishment for something you inherently are! You are particular and loving and appreciative and we should be indecisive together because we don't like to chose, we don't like to hurt anyone's feelings we just want to love! Let's celebrate that with hugs and puppies, not whippings or scoldings!

(I'm actually not kidding.)
Thanks muchly, hon!

(Btw, I read your post about your sister this weekend and apologize for not coming by to comment. You've been in my thoughts for whatever that's worth.)